Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

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Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

FIRST Immigrant Generation

1. William Grieve & Eleanor turnball

Born 5 Feb 1799 in Wooler, Northumberland, Eng. Christen in Earsdon, By North Shields, Northumberland, Eng. Died Approx 1875 in Harvey. Occupation Farmer.

   

William Grieve,   a shepherd, his wife Eleanor, and children, John, 15; Patrick, 13; William, 11; George, 9; Alice, 8; Henry, 6; and Margaret, 3 came to New Brunswick on the brig Cornelius of Sunderland in 1837 with the pioneer settlers of Harvey Settlement.   A daughter, Eleanor was born on the voyage and died in Fredericton in infancy.  

   

A very complete history of the Grieve family, "THE GRIEVE SAGA, The Family of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull and their Descendants (1794-2004) from Harvey, NB and the Comox Valley, BC" has been compiled by William McEwen, 2004, (ISBN 0-9735932-0-2) and provides detailed information on this family, therefore just a brief sketch of two generations of the family is included here.

   

William arrived with only 7s 6d in his pocket , and chose to to begin work immediately on his lot at Harvey.

   

William hired himself out to Colonel Shore at Fredericton at £30 per year for a number of years before settling on his land in Harvey Settlement.    He paid his neighbours to clear his land for him, bringing some much needed cash into the settlement.    After seven years his family took up residence, building a frame house immediately, "without the previous erection of a log-house".    By 1850 he owned 700 acres and had clearings of 20 acres on each of three or four lots, "intended for his several sons".

   

A passage from James F.W. Johnston's 1851 Notes on North America: Agricultural, Economical, and Social (Edinburgh and London:    William Blackwood and Sons, 1851), Vol. II, 168-78; CIHM no. 35750, provides a candid window on William Grieve's experience as a settler:

    

"I conversed with two of the settlers as to their own history and progress.

   

"Mr. Grieves was a shepherd at Whittingham, on the Border. He landed at Fredericton, in 1837, with a family often, and with only 7s. 6d. in his pocket. He did not come out immediately to Harvey along with the other settlers, but having received his grant of land, he hired himself as a farm-servant to Colonel Shore at Fredericton, at £30 a-year; and such of his children as could do anything he hired out also. Supporting the rest of his family out of his earnings, he saved what he could; and whenever he had a pound or two to spare, he got an acre or two of his land cleared. In this way he did good to the other settlers, by bringing some money among them and giving a little employment. At last, four years ago-that was, after seven years' service-he came out, and settled on his land himself: building a good house for his family right away-that is, without the previous erection of a log-house, as is usually the case; and a very good house he appeared to have. He now owns seven hundred acres of land in different lots, and has clearings of twenty acres on each of three or four of these farm-lots, intended for his several sons, who appear to be as industrious as himself

    "When I asked him how it was that he appeared to have got on better than the rest of those around him, he said, "he and his family had saved it off their backs and their belly." But he added -and it really moved mc to find here lingering some heart and gratefulness still for kindness conferred, among so many who are filled only with grumbling and discontent-"Few have had so good a chance as I had, sir, or have met with so kind a master." I afterwards had the pleasure of meeting that master at Fredericton, and found him as grateful for the warm attachment and zealous service of so good a hind. I can well fancy a canny Northumbrian shepherd, with his thriftily brought up, obedient, and respectful children, gaining friends in New Brunswick, and thriving as Grieves has done. "Had I my life to begin again, "he said, "I would come out here; for though I might not have more comfort myself, there is the satisfaction of providing well for my family."

Harvey Settlement Cemetery Section A, Plot #205 (Bottom part of stone broken, repaired with wood frame, 1998.

In memory of Eleanor, wife of Wm Grieve, Died 18th Oct 1860 Aged 66 years; Alice Bell, wife of Isaac Burrell, Died 26th Sept 1860 Aged 31 years; Joseph, Died 21st Nov 1860 Aged 21 years; Patrick T., died 25th Nov 1860 Aged 36 years; William Died 9th Dec 1860 Aged 35 years; (Facing Hwy) John Grieve, Died at St. Louis 14th Dec 1859 Aged 38 years (Footstones: EG, JG, PG, WG). Source: JSW 26 Jul 2006.

William Grieve wo died late late 1874 or early 1875 is probably buried here as well.

From Headquarters, 9 Jan 1861:

   

Died St. Louis, 14th Dec 1859, John Grieve, age 38; 26th Sept., Harvey, York Co., Alice Bell Grieve, age 31; 18th Oct. Elenor Grieve, age 66; 23rd Nov., Joseph Grieve, age 21; 25th same month, Patrick Turnbull Grieve, age 36; 9th Dec., William Grieve, age 35.   The above are the wife and children of William Grieve of Harvey.

   

It is believed that William is buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery, however his name is not on the gravestone.

 

He married Eleanor Turnbull, daughter of Patrick Turnbull & Alice, 9 Jun 1821 in Ingram, Northumberland, England. Born 18 Sep 1794 in Northumberland, England. Christen 21 Sep 1794 in Harbottle, Northumberland, Eng. Died 18 Oct 1860 in Harvey. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery.

   

Married 9 Jun 1821, Parish of Ingram, County of Northumberland in the presence of John Grieve, George Gibson, Margaret Taylor and Mary Taylor.

   

They had the following children:

  2   i.   John Grieve

  3   ii.   Patrick Turnbull Grieve

  4   iii.   William Grieve

  5   iv.   George Grieve

  6   v.   Alice Bell Grieve

  7   vi.   Henry "Harry" Grieve

  8   vii.   Joseph Grieve

  9   viii.   Margaret Grieve

  10   ix.   Eleanor Grieve

  11   x.   Joseph Grieve

Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

second Immigrant Generation

2. John Grieve

Son of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull. Born 16 May 1822 in Peels, Northumberland, England. Died 14 Dec 1859 in St. Louis, MO. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery.

   

Before John was married he acquired, in 1844, a 100 acre lot on the edge of what is now the Village of Harvey fronting on Harvey Lake.   Most of this lot has remained in Grieve hands over the years.

   

From Carleton Sentinel, 12 Aug 1851: "Married Monday 4th inst., by Rev. John Allison, at residence of R. A. Hay, John Grieve, Saint Louis, U.S. and Miss Margaret J. Cunliffe, Woodstock, Carleton Co."

   

From Carleton Sentinel, 21 Jan 1860:     "Died St. Louis, Mo., 14 Dec 1859, of consumption, John eldest son of Wm Grieve, Esq., of Harvey Settlement, York Co., age 38, formerly a resident of Woodstock, Carleton Co."

   

John lived in Woodstock, NB, prior to going to St. Louis, where he died.   While the Carleton Sentinel gives the cause of death being consumption, folklore tells us he died of typhus.

   

He married Margaret Jane Cunliffe, daughter of Nicholas Cunliffe & Margaret Gates, 4 Aug 1851 in Woodstock, NB. Born 1826 in Woodstock, NB. Christen 23 Jul 1826 in Anglican Church, Woodstock, NB. Died 19 Nov 1867. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery.

   

Margaret was from Woodstock.   She was the daughter of Nicholas Cunliffe and Margaret Gates, farmers in the Woodstock area.

    Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery.   Not known where she died.

Harvey Settlement Cemetery Section A, Plot #194 (stone broken, two pieces repaired with wood frame, 1998.

 

Inscription reads:

God is Love
In Memory of Margaret Jane, wife of John Grieve, died Nov 19, 1867 aged 42 years. Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

They had the following children:

  

12   i.   Ella Jane Grieve

Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

second Immigrant Generation

3. Patrick Turnbull Grieve 

Son of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull. Born 15 Feb 1824 in Peels, Northumberland, England. Died 25 Nov 1860 in Harvey Settlement. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery. Occupation Farmer. Religion Presbyterian.

   

Marriages 1851-55, #F15552, p. 37:    Patrick Turnbull Grieve to Mary Piercy on July 1, 1851, by John M. Brooke, witnesses William Grieve Jr., and Alice Bell Grieve.

   

Patrick was a farmer.   He held title to Lot E, in Block 30, containing 100 acres on the eastern bank of the Magaguadavic River with Pratt Brook running through the lot.   This lot was granted by the Crown to Patrick in 1853.   Indenture No. 14361, dated 17 Jan 1859 shows that Patrick sold this lot to his father.   In his father's Will, his father bequeaths this lot to Patrick's wife Mary.   Indenture No. 32756, dated 23 Nov 1882 shows Mary sold this lot that she had inherited from her father-in-law to George Grieve, who was then a railway employee.   It is believed that this was her son George A. S. Grieve.

   

He married Mary Piercy, daughter of George Piercy & Ann Winter, 1 Jul 1851 in St. Paul's Church, Fredericton, By Rev. Dr. John M. Brooke. Born 8 May 1831 in Wark Common, Northumberland, England. Died 12 Aug 1916 in Harvey Station, NB. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery. Religion Presbyterian.

   

Patrick and Mary's youngest child was born three months after Patrick died, leaving Mary to raise seven young children   on her own.

Harvey Settlement Cemetery Section A, Plot #194 (stone broken, two pieces repaired with wood frame, 1998.

 

Inscription reads:

God is Love
In Memory of Margaret Jane, wife of John Grieve, died Nov 19, 1867 aged 42 years. Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

They had the following children:

  13   i.   William Grieve

  14   ii.   George Alexander Smith Grieve

  15   iii.   John Henry "Jack" Grieve

  16   iv.   Thomas Patrick Grieve

  17   v.   Robert Piercy "Bob" Grieve

  18   vi.   Joseph Wesley "Joe" Grieve

  19   vii.   Eleanor Turnbull Grieve

 
 
 

Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

second Immigrant Generation

4. William Grieve 

Son of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull. Born 21 Oct 1825 in Selbycove, England. Died 9 Dec 1860 in Kingsclear, NB. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery. Occupation Farmer.

   

From New Brunswick Courier, 8 Jan 1853:   "Married 30th ult., by Rev. John M. Brooke, William Grieve and Miss Rachel Lawrence, both of Kingsclear, York Co."

   

PANB, #F15552, p. 141:   William Grieve Jr. to Rachael Lawrence both of Kingsclear on Dec 30, 1852, by John M. Brooke, witnesses George Grieve and Jane W. Haining.

   

From land registry records, we learn that in 1844 William was living in Fredericton and bought Lot #10 containing 100 acres in the Parish of Kingsclear from George Shore of Fredericton (Indenture #12965).   This lot was granted to George Shore by the Crown and is located about half way between the Acton and Hanwell settlements.   (The lot is shown on Map 136, NB Dept. of Natural Resources Land Grant Map.)   His widow Rachel sold this Lot #10 in 1862 while living in the Parish of Kingsclear (Indenture #15789).

   

Looking over William's possessions at the time of his death (pages 25 and 26, "The Grieve Saga" compiled by William (Bill) McEwen,   assisted by Jocelean Swan Hall, printed 2004, ISBN 0-9735932-0-2) it is astonishing to learn how humble the family was and that they could eke out a living farming with as few farm implements as are listed in a Probate Court submission.

   

He married Rachel Lawrence, daughter of Isaac Lawrence & Hannah Burtt, 30 Dec 1852 in St. Paul's Church, Fredericton By Rev. Dr. John M. Brooke. Born 26 Aug 1832 in Kingsclear Parish, NB. Died After 1879.

   

When William died, Rachel was left with three young sons, the older two died within a short time of their father, and youngest son John was 11 years old in the 1871 Census for the Parish of Kingsclear.

   

In 1863 Rachel bought Lot #17 containing 10 acres on Sugar Island from her parents (Indenture #16065) and sold it in 1878 while still a resident of the Parish of Kingsclear (Indenture #29443).   In the same year she bought property in the Parish of Bright (formerly Douglas) (Indenture #29510).   In 1879 while a resident of the Parish of Bright, she sold her property in this Parish (Indentures 30223 & 3044431).

   

The 1861 Census for the Parish of Kingsclear shows Rachel with her sons David (5 yrs.) and Joseph J. (18 mo.) living on a farm containing 50 acres of improved land and 150 acres of unimproved land.   She was enumerated as building #34 while her parents were #33 and her brother Isaac Jr., a teacher, as #35.   This 200 acres may have belonged to her father or another family member as no record was found of Rachel buying or selling this land.

   

No further information was found on Rachel, she may have moved to USA.

   

They had the following children:

  20   i.   William Isaac Grieve

  21   ii.   David Lawrence Grieve

  22   iii.   John Joseph Grieve

Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

second Immigrant Generation

5. George Grieve 

Son of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull. Born 9 Apr 1827 in Selbyscove, England. Died 8 May 1909 in Courtenay Area, BC. Buried in Courtenay Civic Cemetery, Section A. Occupation Farmer.

   

From St. Stephen Banner, 24 Mar 1854: "Married Harvey Settlement, 6th inst., by Rev. Millen, George Grieve and Jane, fourth daughter of John Nesbit."

   

PANB #F15552, p. 141:   George Grieve to Jane Nesbit both of Kingsclear on 6 Mar 1854 by William Millan, Presbyterian minister.   Witnesses William Grieve and Matthew Chambers.

   

George came to New Brunswick from England with his parents and six siblings in 1837 when he was 10 years old.   The 1861 Census for Manners Sutton gives the occupation of George and his wife Jane as farmers and weavers.

   

George and his wife Jane and their children moved to Vancouver Island in 1875 and settled in the Comox Valley area, and they were successful farmers, and builders.   He disappeared one day in May 1909 while looking for something in the woods.   George's name is on a gravestone in cemetery in Courtenay, but his body was never found.

   

He married Jane Nesbitt, daughter of John Nesbitt & Ann, 6 Mar 1854 in York Co., NB By William Millen . Born 9 Jun 1828 in Newcastle, England. Died 5 Feb 1918 in Sandwick, BC. Buried in Courtenay Civic Cemetery, Section A.

   

From undated newspaper obituary (1918):

   

Highly Respected Pioneer Passes

   

In the passing of Jane, relict of the late George Grieve, of Sandwick, the community has lost one of its oldest and best residents.    She was born near Newcastle, England, the daughter of John and Annie Nesbitt, June 9th in the year 1828 and when nine years of age, with her parents, left the Old Land for Canada in a sailing vessel and after a long voyage landed at Fredericton, New Brunswick.   Shortly after their arrival the family settled in what is known as the Harvey Settlement, in York County, New Brunswick, where a home was hewn out of the virgin forest.   Many hardships were endured and for a time all provisions had to be carried on the people's backs a distance of twenty-five miles.   When twenty-six years of age she married George Grieve, the wedding taking place on March 6th, 1854, and together they started to make their home in the forest of their adopted Province.   The work was hard and often exacting but determination and enthusiasm won the day.   In the course of time three boys and four girls were born in this happy family, six of whom   survive, William, John, Berkley, Mrs Alex Grant of Vancouver, Mrs Garnett of Nanaimo and Mrs Harry Piercy, while Mrs David Jones passed away a few years ago.

   

In the year 1875 Mr George Grieve came to British Columbia and was followed six months later by Mrs Grieve and family.   The only railroads connecting the West with the East were through the United States.   They came first to San Francisco, then by vessel to Victoria, from where the old steamer "Maude" was taken to Comox, the accommodation on the old boat being so poor that the passengers had to make themselves comfortable on the freight in the hold of the vessel.   The first farm the family settled on is the one now owned by Mr Harry Piercy.   It was then a dense forest, but the dogged persistence and energy of this family soon made a great change.   Eventually, land was purchased on the Upper Road and this became their permanent home.

   

Some eight years ago Mr Grieve was taken away, which was the first great sorrow in the family.   Mrs Grieve bore the affliction with great Christina fortitude, ever maintaining that fine spirit that has had such a good influence in the community.   For years she has been an invalid but has been most cheerful, and uncomplaining--a veritable "Mother in Isreal."   On Tuesday morning she passed away surrounded by her family.

   

The funeral service was held at the family residence by Rev. Thomas Menzies and interment took place today in the Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Sandwick.   The following gentlemen, all pioneers of the District acted as pallbearers:   Messrs Alex Salmond Sr., Alex Urquhart, L. R. Cliffe, Wm Duncan, Hugh Clarke and Eric Duncan.

   

They had the following children:

  23   i.   William Henry Grieve

  24   ii.   Ann Nesbitt "Annie" Grieve

  25   iii.   John Grieve

  26   iv.   Ellenor Alice "Ellen" Grieve

  27   v.   Margaret "Maggie" Grieve

  28   vi.   Joseph Patrick Grieve

  29   vii.   George Thomas "Berkeley" Grieve

  30   viii.   Elizabeth Jane "Lizzie" Grieve

Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

second Immigrant Generation

6. Alice Bell Grieve

Daughter of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull. Born 1 Jan 1829 in Elilaw, Northumberland, England. Died 26 Sep 1860 in Harvey Settlement. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery.

   

From Headquarters, 9 Jan 1861:

   

Died St. Louis, 14th Dec 1859, John Grieve, age 38; 26th Sept., Harvey, York Co., Alice Bell Grieve, age 31; 18th Oct. Elenor Grieve, age 66; 23rd Nov., Joseph Grieve, age 21; 25th same month, Patrick Turnbull Grieve, age 36; 9th Dec., William Grieve, age 35.   The above are the wife and children of William Grieve of Harvey.

   

Alice and her husband Isaac had three children.

  

She married Isaac Burrell, son of Isaac Burrell & Jane, Approx 1854. Born 24 Mar 1829 in Northumberland, England. Died 2 May 1913 in Harvey. Buried in Harvey Settlement Cemetery. Occupation Farmer.

  

Isaac Burrell was married first to Alice Grieve, who died 26 Sep 1860, and they had three children:   Joselean, Jane and William.   Isaac married secondly Elizabeth Nesbitt Berkeley, and they had two children:   Annie and Thomas.

  

In York Co NB Marriage Register C 1850-1866 (PANB), Isaac's surname is written as "Bunnell", and Elizabeth's surname is written as "Birkley".

  

In 1861 Census for Manners Sutton, York Co., NB, Isaac Burrell was 32 years old, English, Farmer, Presbyterian; wife Elizabeth was 36 years old, English, Presbyterian; Joselen, 6, Jane, 4, William Isaac, 1, all born in NB; and Elizabeth Berkeley, 12, English and John Berkeley, 8, English (children of Elizabeth).

   

In the 1861 Census, the Isaac Burrell family owned or occupied 45 acres improved and 65 acres unimproved land.   Cash value of farm, 150 pounds, value of implements and machinery, 8 pounds.   They had 2 horses, 4 milch cows, 5 other neat cattle, 8 sheep, 2 swine, and slaughtered 250 lb. pork.   Produced 100 lb. butter; 25 lb. wool; 9 tons hay; 150 bu. oats; 40 bu. buckwheat; 5 bu. peas, 25 bu. timothy, 100 bu. turnips, and 100 bu. potatoes.

 

From Obituary - (d. 2 May 1913, 85 yr 2 mo.):

  

Death at Tweedside

   

The death of Isaac   Burrell occurred at Tweedside, York County, on Friday evening after a short illness.   He was in the 86th year of his age and had   been in fairly good health until about a week ago.   The deceased is survived by one daughter, Mrs Alex Swan, of Tweedside, one step-daughter, Mrs William Atchinson, of Houlton, and one son, Thomas Burrell of Tweedside.   The funeral took place yesterday and was largely attended.   Rev. M. J. Macpherson conducted the services and interment was made at Tweedside.   (sic.   Harvey Settlement Cemetery/jsh)

   

They had the following children:

  31   i.   Joselean "Celia" Burrell

  32   ii.   Jane "Jennie" Burrell

  33   iii.   William Isaac Burrell

 
 
 

Descendents of William Grieve (5 Feb 1799 - ca 1875)
and Eleanor Turnbull (18 Sep 1794 - 18 Oct 1860)

FIRST Immigrant Generation

7. Henry "Harry" Grieve

 

Son of William Grieve & Eleanor Turnbull. Born 30 Oct 1830 in Elilaw, Northumberland, England. Died 20 Aug 1889 in Grantham, BC. Buried in Courtenay Civic Cemetery, Section A. Occupation Farmer. Religion Presbyterian.

 

From Headquarters, 13 Feb 1861:   "Married Manse of St. Paul's, 6th inst., by Rev. Dr. Brooke, Henry Grieve and Margaret, daughter of Thomas Speedy, all of Harvey, Manners Sutton parish, York Co."

 

PANB, #F15552, p. 419:   Henry Grieve to Margaret Speedy both of Manners Sutton on Feb 6, 1861 by John M. Brooke.   Witnesses: M. I. Little and Isabella Brooke.

 

Henry   went to BC with his family and with the family of his brother George in 1875, and settled on Vancouver Island.   Henry and his wife Margaret had twelve children, with the first seven born in Harvey, NB.   The following is what Mildred Heas wrote about Henry's family:   "At first they (the family) took up residence on the Back Road (Glacier View) but soon moved to Grantham where they homesteaded.   This was around the Tsolum school area and the property was later owned by the Janes family.   One fine day (in August of 1889) when Margaret was away to Comox to meet the fortnightly boat, her husband fell from a load of hay and was killed."

 

SW side, gravestone in Courtenay Civic Cemetery, Section A:   "Henry Grieve, October 30, 1830 - August 20, 1889.   Thy trials ended, thy rest is won."

 

SE side, same stone:   Walter Allen and Mary Alice Grieve, our loved ones."

 

He married Margaret Speedy, daughter of Thomas Speedy & Isabella Patterson, 6 Feb 1861 in St. Pauls Church, Fredericton By Rev. Dr. John M. Brooke. Born 17 Oct 1840 in England. Died 7 Mar 1923 in Nanaimo, BC.

2882. Undated tintype image of "Aunt Maggie" Margaret (Speedy) Grieve/Birkett (1840-1923). See 2883 below for image of photograph removed from sleeve. Source: Darrell Messer, Harvey, Rephotographed by Tim Patterson. 26 Jul 2007.